Thanks for taking time to read and respond.

Thanks for taking time to read and respond. 

Folks can disagree. I’m not wrong about Shiv, you just have a different perspective.

In season one that interaction I recounted where Logan moved Shiv’s hand towards his Manparts was a tell. The writers wouldn’t have just placed that there for no reason. Was the abuse continuous, I doubt it but she is tough in the way she is tough for a reason. 

The extremely dysfunctional way Shiv interacts with and attempts to control men in all of her relationships is a clear tell that something happened. 

When Logan speaks about being a cold Catholic in reference to the impending harassment charges I don’t think Shiv would challenge him to his face on that. 

I once knew a woman from a large Catholic family with several girls who were sexually abused to varying degrees by their Father who was a pillar of the community. As adults they chose to forgive him but they all had seriously dysfunctional relationships and I see similarities in Shiv. 

The thing I love about storytelling is we can receive the stories from our own unique perspectives. We won’t agree on all of it. But I do agree with you that this is an incredible series. I’m rewatching season 3 lol.